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Transcript for: Elder Abuse by Guardians

Description: Audio interview by GAO staff with Kathy Larin, Director,
Forensic Audits and Investigative Service

Related GAO Works:

GAO-17-33: Elder Abuse: The Extent of Abuse by Guardians is Unknown, but
Some Measure Exist to Help Protect Older Adults

and

GAO-17-273T: Elder Abuse: The Extent of Abuse by Guardians Is
Unknown, but Some Measures Are Being Taken to Help Protect Older Adults

Released: November 2016


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[ Narrator: ] Welcome to GAO's Watchdog Report, your source for news and
information from the U.S. Government Accountability Office. It's
November 2016. The number of adults over age 65 is expected to nearly
double in the United States by 2050. When an older adult becomes
incapable of making informed decisions, a guardianship may be necessary.
A team led by Kathy Larin, a Director in GAO's Forensic Audits and
Investigative Service team, recently looked at what's known about the
extent of elder abuse by guardians, and federal, state and local efforts
to protect older adults with guardians. Jacques Arsenault sat down with
Kathy to talk about what they found.

[ Jacques Arsenault: ] Your team looked at abuse of older adults by
guardians. What do we know about how big of a problem this is?

[ Kathy Larin: ] Unfortunately, we really know very little. There are no
national statistics and currently no national database that pulls
together information on things like the number of guardians assigned to
older adults, the number of older adults that have guardians, or the
number of abuse cases. Guardianships are typically handled at the state
level by the state court system and so one of the things we did for this
report is reach out to six different states with large elderly
populations to see if there was more information available at the state
level and what we found is that while state courts do collect some
information of interest, for example, they may know the number of
guardians in the state or the number of abuse cases in the state, they
don't really track that information by the age of the person involved.
So we still have very little information even at the state level on the
number of cases of abuse involving older adults and guardians.

[ Jacques Arsenault: ] So, to take a step back, what types of behaviors
are we talking about when we use the word abuse in this report?

[ Kathy Larin: ] Really any type of abuse can effect an older adult. So
that would include physical or sexual abuse, neglect or abandonment,
psychological or emotional abuse, and what we most often think of in the
context of older adults: financial exploitation. But it's important to
note that these types of abuse don't necessarily occur in isolation. As
part of our report, we looked in depth at eight cases involving
guardians and elder abuse. What we found is that some of those cases
simply involved financial exploitation, but others involved more than
one type of abuse. Say, financial exploitation and neglect.

[ Jacques Arsenault: ] Older adults are certainly a vulnerable
population. Are there efforts to be collecting more data or getting a
better sense of what the numbers are?

[ Kathy Larin: ] There are efforts underway. The U.S. Department of
Health and Human Services Administration on Aging has developed a new
database called the National Adult Maltreatment Reporting System, and
that will compile data from Adult Protective Services Departments from
throughout the country. And the goal of the database will be to provide
consistent and accurate national data on elder abuse, and our
understanding is it can be used to determine how much abuse is being
inflicted by guardians. So very soon that will be a good resource for
getting a better handle on the problem.

[ Jacques Arsenault: ] So beyond just getting a better sense of how big
the problem is, can you talk about what's the role of the federal
government or the states in protecting against or preventing abuse of
older adults?

[ Kathy Larin: ] So the federal government does not regulate or directly
support guardianship, but there are a number of federal grants that help
prevent guardian abuse. There are grants to improve the oversight and
monitoring of guardians, for developing standards for guardianship, and
also for supporting local partnerships that pull together court
officials, family members, service providers to support guardianships
and help prevent abuse. At the state level, there are also a number of
efforts underway. These include screening to ensure that only those
older adults that really need a guardian are assigned one, education so
guardians better understand both their fiduciary and their caregiving
responsibilities, monitoring of caregiving and of spending by guardians,
and enforcement so that if someone is found to abuse their position,
they're removed from that position and face penalties.

[ Jacques Arsenault: ] Now, I wanted to be sure to ask this question
even though it's not quite in the scope of the report, but if one of our
listeners or somebody knows about or suspects abuse of an older adult
either by guardians or otherwise, who can they call or what steps should
they take?

[ Kathy Larin: ] It's really important that people report suspected
abuse. If anyone thinks that an older adult is in immediate danger, of
course, they should call 911. But otherwise, the best resource is the
local Adult Protective Services Agency. The National Center on Elder
Abuse is also a great resource, and it lays out the steps you should
take if you suspect elder abuse.

[ Jacques Arsenault: ] So then finally, when it comes to protecting
vulnerable older adults, what would you say is the bottom line in this
report?

[ Kathy Larin: ] The number of adults over the age of 65 is expected to
nearly double by the year 2050, and this is going to lead in a
substantial increase in the number of older adults who need guardians.
This is an especially vulnerable population. So in light of that, it
will be increasingly important for those at all levels of the government
to be aware of the potential for abuse and to take steps to prevent it
by implementing some of the best practices that we lay out in our
report.

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